Welcome back to MAFIA II! In part two, we analyze our second gameplay video where Vito and Joe's success on odd-jobs for the Mafia put them on the shortlist to be accepted into the family, but when Vito's riskiness catches up to him, he finds himself being held accountable.
In this episode, we react to Vito's morning beer, the incredibly obvious stake-out, and that taunt about "shoving a potato up your mother's ass" 🤔 More seriously, we talk about Henry acting mysterious and the maddening lack of consequences for Vito's actions. Also, WHO is that lady and why is she here? Don't forget to watch or play along - gameplay is posted weekly on our YouTube channel! We'll continue to play MAFIA II and analyze it in our podcast - join us in the coming weeks as we follow Vito's path through the Mafia.
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00:00:22 --> 00:00:25 is the first time we're trying it. But after
00:00:25 --> 00:00:30 a long break, we're back to Mafia part two. Should
00:00:30 --> 00:00:32 I just do the out -of -context summary? Mm -hmm.
00:00:33 --> 00:00:35 In this episode, we witness the return of the
00:00:35 --> 00:00:39 bitch slap. This game likes ass more than we
00:00:39 --> 00:00:45 do. And is Joe f***ing serious? Thank you for
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00:01:01 --> 00:01:10 be a similar experience for you. Chapter 4, Murphy's
00:01:10 --> 00:01:13 Law. We're in Little Italy, February 11th, 1945.
00:01:15 --> 00:01:17 Vito learns a bit more about the dynamics of
00:01:17 --> 00:01:20 his new job when he and Joe take on another mission.
00:01:22 --> 00:01:26 So, Vito wakes up, drinks his morning beer, spots
00:01:26 --> 00:01:28 a note that Joe left for him on the counter,
00:01:28 --> 00:01:30 He says to head to Freddy's because there's another
00:01:30 --> 00:01:33 job. Well, I think at the start of the game,
00:01:33 --> 00:01:39 we noted that there's a woman who grunted so
00:01:39 --> 00:01:43 loud it sounded like a man hoister. I'm curious
00:01:43 --> 00:01:47 about this person. Yeah. It's at 57 seconds if
00:01:47 --> 00:01:49 you want to look it up. I'm not going to take
00:01:49 --> 00:01:50 complete blame for that. She should look both
00:01:50 --> 00:01:53 ways before crossing the road. And it was just,
00:01:53 --> 00:01:55 it was a love tap. I didn't hit her. But yeah,
00:01:55 --> 00:01:58 the noise she makes. I'm afraid to do it because
00:01:58 --> 00:02:02 I don't want to wake up toast, but we'll insert
00:02:02 --> 00:02:07 it. Vito gets to Freddy's. He and Joe are a bit
00:02:07 --> 00:02:10 uppity about the job last night, but Henry's
00:02:10 --> 00:02:12 pretty good at handling it. He says, relax, this
00:02:12 --> 00:02:14 is a high -risk business. You can go back to
00:02:14 --> 00:02:17 the docks if you want. Their discussion is interrupted
00:02:17 --> 00:02:21 when the camera pans over to this guy at the
00:02:21 --> 00:02:23 counter on the phone, and he's talking so loud
00:02:23 --> 00:02:26 that everyone... could hear his business what
00:02:26 --> 00:02:29 is up with him like i get he couldn't get things
00:02:29 --> 00:02:31 done and that's really what triggers next point
00:02:31 --> 00:02:34 but do we really need to hear a guy who's probably
00:02:34 --> 00:02:37 doing something illegal just draw so much attention
00:02:37 --> 00:02:40 towards himself i'm pretty sure he breaks the
00:02:40 --> 00:02:43 phone too oh my gosh back into the cradle but
00:02:43 --> 00:02:45 yeah he's pissed off about not being paid for
00:02:45 --> 00:02:48 two months and then he like storms over to henry
00:02:48 --> 00:02:52 he's like do it now And either Vito or Joe says,
00:02:52 --> 00:02:54 who was that? And Henry says, somebody you don't
00:02:54 --> 00:02:57 need to know right now. So Henry then outlines
00:02:57 --> 00:03:00 the job. It sounds like the boss, whoever that
00:03:00 --> 00:03:02 is, lent a man money to start a jewelry store,
00:03:03 --> 00:03:05 but he's not paying it back fast enough. So they're
00:03:05 --> 00:03:08 taking it back in jewels, plus extra for their
00:03:08 --> 00:03:12 trouble. Joe says he has a plan. He makes it
00:03:12 --> 00:03:15 sound pretty easy. He says that basically they
00:03:15 --> 00:03:17 just need to lockpick, and they're in. I don't
00:03:17 --> 00:03:21 know why Vito keeps trusting Joe. I would never.
00:03:21 --> 00:03:24 What has he done? I mean, honestly. Besides help
00:03:24 --> 00:03:28 him desert. If he really needed help and Joe
00:03:28 --> 00:03:29 wanted to show his loyalty, he would have helped
00:03:29 --> 00:03:32 out Vito's sister. He could have just borrowed
00:03:32 --> 00:03:35 or lent them money. There was no need to drag
00:03:35 --> 00:03:37 Vito into this and Vito should have accepted
00:03:37 --> 00:03:42 it. Six hours later, they're in disguise on site
00:03:42 --> 00:03:44 and things go well until a car crashes into the
00:03:44 --> 00:03:47 store. Turns out this is a rival group led by
00:03:47 --> 00:03:50 a Brian O 'Neill. Who is also here to rob the
00:03:50 --> 00:03:55 store in a less under -the -radar fashion. The
00:03:55 --> 00:03:58 way they come in is they're crashing through
00:03:58 --> 00:04:01 a whole building. And I don't know what kind
00:04:01 --> 00:04:05 of experienced robbery crew would do that. Why
00:04:05 --> 00:04:08 would you draw so much attention to you guys?
00:04:08 --> 00:04:13 And what are the coincidences of having two different...
00:04:13 --> 00:04:15 groups of people robbing the same place at the
00:04:15 --> 00:04:18 same time with the police right on their tails
00:04:18 --> 00:04:23 i think someone set rito and joe up there's no
00:04:23 --> 00:04:26 way that that's happening at the same time it
00:04:26 --> 00:04:28 is pretty sketchy one of them might even say
00:04:28 --> 00:04:31 like it was a setup or something i can't remember
00:04:31 --> 00:04:34 yeah someone says something like that so which
00:04:34 --> 00:04:37 is why i'm thinking that either henry's working
00:04:37 --> 00:04:40 with the irish and trying to get everyone arrested
00:04:40 --> 00:04:43 at the same time But there's no need to do that.
00:04:43 --> 00:04:44 He could have just let the cops on. So I don't
00:04:44 --> 00:04:49 understand how. Yeah. And who's being set up
00:04:49 --> 00:04:53 because Brian O 'Neill gets arrested. So it seems
00:04:53 --> 00:04:57 like everyone's being set up. Vito and Joe make
00:04:57 --> 00:05:00 a run for it when the cops show up and they run
00:05:00 --> 00:05:04 to the roof. It's snowing. And they decide to
00:05:04 --> 00:05:07 shimmy across the side of the building in the
00:05:07 --> 00:05:12 snow on a high rise building. I think I would
00:05:12 --> 00:05:15 let the cops shoot me and hope I live. I would
00:05:15 --> 00:05:17 never face outwards. I think that's the conversation
00:05:17 --> 00:05:20 I asked you when watching is, if I did have to,
00:05:20 --> 00:05:23 is it better to face outwards or face against
00:05:23 --> 00:05:26 the wall and hug and grip the sides? I think
00:05:26 --> 00:05:31 I would keep it low. I'd probably crawl and have
00:05:31 --> 00:05:34 one hand on the billboard thing that was there
00:05:34 --> 00:05:38 and just hope for the best. But ideally, I would
00:05:38 --> 00:05:42 hope to never be. in such a situation they do
00:05:42 --> 00:05:44 manage to escape though and this is where o 'neill
00:05:44 --> 00:05:47 and his crew get arrested joe takes the jewels
00:05:47 --> 00:05:50 and veto heads home can we pause on that yeah
00:05:50 --> 00:05:54 we didn't like that did we no no why would why
00:05:54 --> 00:05:57 would you trust joe again isn't that what got
00:05:57 --> 00:05:59 you in trouble in the first place and sent to
00:05:59 --> 00:06:03 war i don't know i don't know if if you asked
00:06:03 --> 00:06:05 me to give you the jewels and then i got in jail
00:06:05 --> 00:06:08 and you never did anything to help me out i don't
00:06:08 --> 00:06:10 know if i would trust you again with giving you
00:06:10 --> 00:06:12 the jewels and let history repeat itself why
00:06:12 --> 00:06:15 can't they both go you know hand the jewels over
00:06:15 --> 00:06:18 why is it just joe i'm surprised that joe doesn't
00:06:18 --> 00:06:21 backstab him though get them in the scene and
00:06:21 --> 00:06:26 we know he doesn't get backstabbed he's a unintentional
00:06:26 --> 00:06:30 backstabber that's the way i see it So, it's
00:06:30 --> 00:06:32 already Chapter 5, The Buzzsaw. We're at Joe's
00:06:32 --> 00:06:35 apartment, February 20th, 1945. So I'll spend
00:06:35 --> 00:06:39 a few days. Last, we left off on the 11th. Vito
00:06:39 --> 00:06:41 and Joe are commissioned to help with a high
00:06:41 --> 00:06:43 -stakes mission that could cement their entry
00:06:43 --> 00:06:46 into the family. We learn a bit more about Henry
00:06:46 --> 00:06:49 and the inner workings of the Mafia. Starting
00:06:49 --> 00:06:53 out this scene, who is this lady? She's useless.
00:06:53 --> 00:06:56 I'm entirely confused. Why is she there? Why
00:06:56 --> 00:06:59 do we care about her? And why? I don't get it,
00:06:59 --> 00:07:02 because it was like, when Vito first got back,
00:07:02 --> 00:07:04 this is when we meet her, or we see her in the
00:07:04 --> 00:07:06 bar, and Vito's the one, like, checking her out.
00:07:07 --> 00:07:10 But now she's, like, with Joe? And I'm just confused.
00:07:10 --> 00:07:12 Like, I don't know why she's here. I don't trust
00:07:12 --> 00:07:15 her. I mean, she's still kind of flirty with
00:07:15 --> 00:07:18 Vito, so maybe she's using Joe to get closer
00:07:18 --> 00:07:25 to Vito? I don't know. Kinda. Extremely. She
00:07:25 --> 00:07:27 tells Vito that Joe wants him to come to Freddy's
00:07:27 --> 00:07:31 for lunch, so Vito heads out. And once outside,
00:07:31 --> 00:07:33 he witnesses this lady get rear -ended by some
00:07:33 --> 00:07:37 guy. Vito steps in and she's grateful and says,
00:07:37 --> 00:07:40 Want to come over to my place for a piece of
00:07:40 --> 00:07:45 pie? Vito declines. And he's going to continue
00:07:45 --> 00:07:48 on to Freddy's, but hold on. What's going on
00:07:48 --> 00:07:52 at 1347? I feel like a line is crossed here.
00:07:53 --> 00:07:56 What? Does she booty bump him in the crotch?
00:07:56 --> 00:08:02 She booty bumps him, but why was that necessary?
00:08:02 --> 00:08:05 I mean, she's flirting with him. I get that.
00:08:05 --> 00:08:07 But in this game, I don't know how they design
00:08:07 --> 00:08:09 games and stuff, but why did they add these frames?
00:08:09 --> 00:08:13 They had to put attention behind it. Right. Ma
00:08:13 --> 00:08:19 'am, keep your buns to yourself. Keep your buns
00:08:19 --> 00:08:22 away from Vito's hot dog. He's not interested.
00:08:23 --> 00:08:27 I don't know if there's like a side mission that
00:08:27 --> 00:08:30 involves her that I just didn't do or what, but
00:08:30 --> 00:08:33 they make her seem so important. And then I don't
00:08:33 --> 00:08:36 know if we ever see her again after this. So
00:08:36 --> 00:08:38 I'm confused by her. I don't get it. That's useless.
00:08:39 --> 00:08:42 So finally at Freddy's, we meet Luca Garino.
00:08:43 --> 00:08:45 Luca congratulates Vito and Joe on a job well
00:08:45 --> 00:08:48 done. Is this the guy that was on the phone?
00:08:49 --> 00:08:53 I forgot to pull it up. Pull up the video. So
00:08:53 --> 00:08:54 one of them is the phone guy. I don't know if
00:08:54 --> 00:08:57 it's Luca or the guy dealing out the bitch slap.
00:08:58 --> 00:09:02 Dracula looking guy is the guy on the phone.
00:09:03 --> 00:09:07 Is that Luca? So this guy with wrinkles with
00:09:07 --> 00:09:10 the thin mustache. Let me fast forward. He's
00:09:10 --> 00:09:14 the guy who gets slapped. So that's Luca. This
00:09:14 --> 00:09:17 greasy guy's Luca. He gets slapped. Yeah. So
00:09:17 --> 00:09:21 who's this guy? I don't know. We don't know him.
00:09:21 --> 00:09:24 Okay, question answered, though. So we're meeting
00:09:24 --> 00:09:29 Phone Guy, who's Luca. And he then states he's
00:09:29 --> 00:09:31 wondering if they're ready to take the next step.
00:09:31 --> 00:09:34 I'm talking about taking somebody out. Just because
00:09:34 --> 00:09:37 someone points his finger at him and tells you
00:09:37 --> 00:09:39 to do it. Before we get into this, it was in
00:09:39 --> 00:09:42 this scene that I realized Vito has blue eyes.
00:09:43 --> 00:09:47 What? And that seems genetically improbable.
00:09:48 --> 00:09:53 You're lying. Hold on. I have Googled this already.
00:09:54 --> 00:09:58 No, he doesn't. Look for the close -ups. Okay,
00:09:58 --> 00:10:03 it is. Okay, but I found information on this.
00:10:03 --> 00:10:07 Okay. Number one. One to 19 % in all of Italy,
00:10:07 --> 00:10:10 which is a wide range. I couldn't find anything
00:10:10 --> 00:10:13 for Sicily specifically. But what I did find
00:10:13 --> 00:10:16 in the lore is that he's supposed to have brown
00:10:16 --> 00:10:18 eyes, but the remaster just kind of f***ed him
00:10:18 --> 00:10:23 up. Oh. I don't know. I don't know why they gave
00:10:23 --> 00:10:26 him blue eyes. Can we talk about how quickly
00:10:26 --> 00:10:29 we escalate the scene, though? We go from a casual
00:10:29 --> 00:10:33 jewelry store robbery to, I mean, like, you did
00:10:33 --> 00:10:37 shoot some people escaping the police. But, like,
00:10:37 --> 00:10:41 we're going from unintentional shooting, somewhat
00:10:41 --> 00:10:42 you could debate and say it's self -defense,
00:10:43 --> 00:10:47 to outright murder and homicide. In response
00:10:47 --> 00:10:50 to the idea of taking out a hit, Vito references
00:10:50 --> 00:10:53 his time in war and being like, yeah, I killed
00:10:53 --> 00:10:56 people all the time. It's fine. But Luca says
00:10:56 --> 00:10:58 this will be different. It's not so much just
00:10:58 --> 00:11:02 killing the bad guys. It's whoever we tell you
00:11:02 --> 00:11:10 to. No questions asked. And to me, Vito has no
00:11:10 --> 00:11:13 reaction. And I find that deeply disturbing.
00:11:13 --> 00:11:16 I don't know what to think about him right now.
00:11:16 --> 00:11:21 I'm concerned with how willing he is, much more
00:11:21 --> 00:11:23 so than Joe, even though Joe seems like the guy
00:11:23 --> 00:11:26 who's like, I could do anything and I'm in the
00:11:26 --> 00:11:32 mafia kind of situation. For Vito, what is this
00:11:32 --> 00:11:35 character arc? Like, what direction is it heading
00:11:35 --> 00:11:40 into if he is the good guy, but yet so easy?
00:11:40 --> 00:11:42 Like, I was in the war and therefore I can kill.
00:11:42 --> 00:11:48 He has no morals or... empathy or reactions yeah
00:11:48 --> 00:11:51 i keep waiting for guilt to enter the equation
00:11:51 --> 00:11:55 guilt for deserting guilt for you know killing
00:11:55 --> 00:12:00 people even if it was in war guilt for doing
00:12:00 --> 00:12:02 these things that his mother doesn't want him
00:12:02 --> 00:12:05 to do all the people that have died so far and
00:12:05 --> 00:12:07 then like he just has no reaction here i'm like
00:12:07 --> 00:12:10 he just seems completely disconnected i don't
00:12:10 --> 00:12:13 even know if he has emotions like where are his
00:12:13 --> 00:12:19 emotions at agreed and they make a big deal like
00:12:19 --> 00:12:22 we'll see this repeatedly we make a really big
00:12:22 --> 00:12:26 deal about him being a war hero but we never
00:12:26 --> 00:12:29 really explore what does that mean we want to
00:12:29 --> 00:12:32 explore does he feel guilty or does he have any
00:12:32 --> 00:12:36 issues since being in the war I can't figure
00:12:36 --> 00:12:38 him out. And I don't know if the game, you know,
00:12:38 --> 00:12:40 when they keep mentioning the medals and the
00:12:40 --> 00:12:42 awards, if that's the game trying to help us
00:12:42 --> 00:12:46 be like, oh, he did his time. So don't feel bad
00:12:46 --> 00:12:49 about him deserting, basically. But a good person
00:12:49 --> 00:12:51 would feel bad about deserting. I don't care
00:12:51 --> 00:12:54 how many medals they got. And he didn't want
00:12:54 --> 00:12:56 to be there in the first place. You know, I just,
00:12:56 --> 00:13:01 I don't get it. I don't get Vito. So if he completes
00:13:01 --> 00:13:02 this job, they have a chance of being accepted
00:13:02 --> 00:13:05 into the family. After you pay the initiation
00:13:05 --> 00:13:09 fee, of course, which is five grand each. Vito,
00:13:09 --> 00:13:12 you're trying to get money to pay off your family's
00:13:12 --> 00:13:15 debt. You should not be entertaining a five grand
00:13:15 --> 00:13:17 entrance fee to the mafia. I don't understand
00:13:17 --> 00:13:22 why he would even consider that because him coming
00:13:22 --> 00:13:24 back, doing all these jobs was for money, not
00:13:24 --> 00:13:27 for entertainment, not for finding a purpose
00:13:27 --> 00:13:31 in life. Joe should be telling Vito, I'll cover
00:13:31 --> 00:13:33 it or... Vito, you don't need to do this. You're
00:13:33 --> 00:13:36 here for the money. Let me remind you again as
00:13:36 --> 00:13:40 your friend. Vito questions Henry, who says that
00:13:40 --> 00:13:43 it's his contract, but he needs some help. So
00:13:43 --> 00:13:46 it's sounding like this guy's a real challenge.
00:13:46 --> 00:13:49 It's sort of a kill or be killed situation. Vito
00:13:49 --> 00:13:52 finally arrives at the stakeout apartment. We
00:13:52 --> 00:13:54 learn here that Henry's father sent him to the
00:13:54 --> 00:13:56 U .S. to work for Clemente when the war started
00:13:56 --> 00:14:00 and that his father died in jail. And they're
00:14:00 --> 00:14:02 just casually standing by the window having these
00:14:02 --> 00:14:06 conversations. Yeah, our boys are not subtle.
00:14:06 --> 00:14:08 We've got the windows wide open in the middle
00:14:08 --> 00:14:12 of winter. Joe's snoring audibly. Speaking of
00:14:12 --> 00:14:14 Joe, when Henry says that his father died in
00:14:14 --> 00:14:17 jail, Vito asks, how is your English so good?
00:14:17 --> 00:14:20 Because he grew up in Sicily. But before Henry
00:14:20 --> 00:14:23 can answer, Joe interrupts him, having spotted
00:14:23 --> 00:14:27 their guy. So that's kind of weird. Why is he
00:14:27 --> 00:14:32 so good at English? Why do we care? I think just
00:14:32 --> 00:14:35 because he grew up in Sicily. So Vito's confused.
00:14:36 --> 00:14:38 Because the war is still ongoing, so he hasn't
00:14:38 --> 00:14:41 been here very long. If he got sent over when
00:14:41 --> 00:14:45 the war started. After their very not subtle
00:14:45 --> 00:14:48 stakeout, a shootout begins and we have to chase
00:14:48 --> 00:14:51 after our mark. So we run into this whiskey factory.
00:14:52 --> 00:14:56 We're shooting. We're blasting. Joe. You're hitting
00:14:56 --> 00:14:59 hard liquor straight from the bottle during a
00:14:59 --> 00:15:02 firefight. When did he find the opportunity to
00:15:02 --> 00:15:06 grab that? And he needs to go to AA because if
00:15:06 --> 00:15:10 he needs hard liquor while doing a job and he's
00:15:10 --> 00:15:12 going to be drunk and impaired, he probably can't
00:15:12 --> 00:15:15 drive and is not helping anyone in that situation.
00:15:16 --> 00:15:18 They're making it hard for me to like the characters
00:15:18 --> 00:15:20 in this game. So far, I only really like Henry.
00:15:21 --> 00:15:23 Yeah. So they eventually fight their way up to
00:15:23 --> 00:15:26 their mark. I'm not sure we get a name other
00:15:26 --> 00:15:31 than Porky. Henry sticks his gun in his mouth.
00:15:31 --> 00:15:35 Not a euphemism, literally. But he begs with
00:15:35 --> 00:15:39 Henry to let him live for his wife. And Henry
00:15:39 --> 00:15:41 says, you should have thought about your wife
00:15:41 --> 00:15:45 before. Don Clemente sends his regards. This
00:15:45 --> 00:15:48 whole scene is so dramatic. The fact that the
00:15:48 --> 00:15:51 Porky guy is really dramatic in the scene with
00:15:51 --> 00:15:55 Henry. And there's some sarcasm thrown in. I
00:15:55 --> 00:16:00 like it, but at the same time, come on. And they
00:16:00 --> 00:16:03 call women dramatic when you have guys like this.
00:16:03 --> 00:16:06 My only other note on this exchange, and it's
00:16:06 --> 00:16:08 been a long time, so I don't recall, but I wrote,
00:16:08 --> 00:16:14 Henry's voice here is delicious. Oh, my gosh.
00:16:15 --> 00:16:19 I need to find out who the voice actor is. I
00:16:19 --> 00:16:23 need to find it now. Sonny Marinelli. He looks
00:16:23 --> 00:16:30 like Jeff Probst mixed with Ben Stiller? What?
00:16:31 --> 00:16:34 What's his name again? I'm looking it up. Sonny
00:16:34 --> 00:16:39 Marinelli. He does look like Jeff Probst mixed
00:16:39 --> 00:16:45 with Ben Stiller and Owen Wilson. Just a hint
00:16:45 --> 00:16:49 of Owen Wilson. Yeah. Okay, okay, I can see where
00:16:49 --> 00:16:51 the delicious voice comes in because I just found
00:16:51 --> 00:16:55 it. There's something about it, right? Let me
00:16:55 --> 00:17:11 share it. Hold on. It's just so cold. It's just
00:17:11 --> 00:17:19 so tough. So anyway, Porky. It's a shot in, though.
00:17:20 --> 00:17:23 Yeah. He shoots Henry at close range with a snub
00:17:23 --> 00:17:26 nose, I think. Pistol. Vito and Joe go a little
00:17:26 --> 00:17:30 overkill, finishing Porky off. And then Henry
00:17:30 --> 00:17:32 puts one in him after the fact, just, you know,
00:17:32 --> 00:17:35 to get him back. And then he says, get me to
00:17:35 --> 00:17:41 El Greco. Joe's like, the f*** paino? I don't
00:17:41 --> 00:17:43 get the joke, Kathy. But he says, no, the f***
00:17:43 --> 00:17:47 doctor, you idiot. Joe's just a drunk dumbass.
00:17:47 --> 00:17:52 Who is El Greco? But at least Joe isn't completely
00:17:52 --> 00:17:55 useless because he helps carry Henry so Vito
00:17:55 --> 00:18:01 can do his thing. Okay, Joe. El Greco was born
00:18:01 --> 00:18:07 in 1541. Joe has no business referencing him
00:18:07 --> 00:18:12 as a person who could be alive and be brought
00:18:12 --> 00:18:16 to. Joe's out of it. They escape from the building.
00:18:16 --> 00:18:19 They race to get Henry to El Greco. Okay, but
00:18:19 --> 00:18:22 then the joke continues. They get to El Greco's
00:18:22 --> 00:18:23 and they're like, are you the doctor? He's like,
00:18:23 --> 00:18:26 no, I'm the f***ing painter. Yeah, what's up
00:18:26 --> 00:18:29 with that? Is El Greco just a widely known person
00:18:29 --> 00:18:31 that we don't know about or was he popular in
00:18:31 --> 00:18:36 the 1940s? Maybe he was like a nickname because
00:18:36 --> 00:18:40 he painted and someone said, hey, that's your
00:18:40 --> 00:18:43 nickname from now on. Sure, we'll go with that.
00:18:45 --> 00:18:48 But then Henry pays Vito here, even though he's
00:18:48 --> 00:18:52 bleeding out. Why? Weird, right? Is he just trying
00:18:52 --> 00:18:55 to gain trust? Why is that the first thing on
00:18:55 --> 00:18:58 your mind when you're bleeding out? If there
00:18:58 --> 00:19:00 was more conversation about how Vito needed the
00:19:00 --> 00:19:03 money for his sister, I could see that making
00:19:03 --> 00:19:05 sense. Take care of your family first and then
00:19:05 --> 00:19:09 join our family because you're family now. There's
00:19:09 --> 00:19:11 never any conversation. Henry probably doesn't
00:19:11 --> 00:19:14 know about Frankie's situation or why Vito's
00:19:14 --> 00:19:18 here in the first place. So, makes no sense.
00:19:18 --> 00:19:20 Well, and why does Henry have the money with
00:19:20 --> 00:19:24 him at all? That seems odd to me. Seems risky
00:19:24 --> 00:19:26 to take that with you into a shootout. So, I
00:19:26 --> 00:19:29 don't know. Between that and the English question,
00:19:29 --> 00:19:33 Henry's, like, a little mysterious to me now.
00:19:33 --> 00:19:36 I don't know. He's just doing a couple things
00:19:36 --> 00:19:38 that I don't understand, but so is Vito and Joe.
00:19:39 --> 00:19:41 Anything before scene three, it's a short scene.
00:19:42 --> 00:19:46 No, I have two notes on it, and that's it. Vito
00:19:46 --> 00:19:49 visits Francesca. He now has the money needed
00:19:49 --> 00:19:52 to clear his father's debt, so he pays her back.
00:19:52 --> 00:19:55 Very quick stop in. But she's so cool for asking
00:19:55 --> 00:19:57 the right amount of questions, and then covering
00:19:57 --> 00:19:59 for him to not tell their mom where he got the
00:19:59 --> 00:20:03 money from. She's great, but I'm annoyed about
00:20:03 --> 00:20:05 Vito. He doesn't even want to say hi to his mom,
00:20:05 --> 00:20:08 and why is he acting like a stranger? Yeah, and
00:20:08 --> 00:20:11 then he just goes to Joe's. You can stop with
00:20:11 --> 00:20:13 the mafia stuff now. You paid off the debt. What
00:20:13 --> 00:20:16 is keeping you here? If they kind of build up
00:20:16 --> 00:20:19 more background saying that he feels like he's
00:20:19 --> 00:20:22 just going to bring danger to his family, I get
00:20:22 --> 00:20:24 that. Then it makes sense for him to stay away.
00:20:24 --> 00:20:27 But there's no reason to do so. They really don't
00:20:27 --> 00:20:30 fluff up his background and give us understanding
00:20:30 --> 00:20:34 of... why he does what he does yeah like why
00:20:34 --> 00:20:39 does he like killing people i agree questions
00:20:39 --> 00:20:41 he's starting to irritate me but i think he gets
00:20:41 --> 00:20:44 what he deserves in the next chapter should we
00:20:44 --> 00:20:47 move on to that we're now at chapter six time
00:20:47 --> 00:20:50 well spent we are again in little italy february
00:20:50 --> 00:20:55 26 1945 so been about a week vita gets arrested
00:20:55 --> 00:20:58 for selling the gas stamps and is sentenced to
00:20:58 --> 00:21:02 10 years in prison Which is so excessive. Yeah,
00:21:02 --> 00:21:06 and I had a note here. I like Vito a bit better
00:21:06 --> 00:21:08 realizing that he gets arrested right after getting
00:21:08 --> 00:21:11 the money he needs. And if getting arrested is
00:21:11 --> 00:21:14 what turns him back to the mafia, I get it. You
00:21:14 --> 00:21:16 know, I get why he chooses that life. We just
00:21:16 --> 00:21:19 don't know if he would have stopped had he not
00:21:19 --> 00:21:21 gotten arrested. So right now, that's my big
00:21:21 --> 00:21:24 moral question for Vito's character is, we don't
00:21:24 --> 00:21:26 know. Maybe he did plan to stop with the mafia
00:21:26 --> 00:21:28 stuff now that he got the money back. But he
00:21:28 --> 00:21:30 gets arrested and that's sort of what throws
00:21:30 --> 00:21:32 him back into it. Sort of like the Tommy in the
00:21:32 --> 00:21:35 cab situation where he was kind of being hunted
00:21:35 --> 00:21:37 down because he was just wrong place, wrong time.
00:21:38 --> 00:21:41 I would say that because he never chooses to
00:21:41 --> 00:21:46 hang around with his sister and his mom, he had
00:21:46 --> 00:21:48 the intention of going back. He's surrounding
00:21:48 --> 00:21:50 himself with people like Joe and that's not going
00:21:50 --> 00:21:53 to help him stop with being on the mafia track.
00:21:53 --> 00:21:58 So if he doesn't get arrested, he's not. going
00:21:58 --> 00:22:06 to stop. So we're at the jail and at 39 minutes
00:22:06 --> 00:22:11 there's an inmate just shaking and slapping ass
00:22:11 --> 00:22:20 right at Vito. You gotta look. And he kind of
00:22:20 --> 00:22:27 taps his butt cheek too. It's at 3857. And that's
00:22:27 --> 00:22:30 just the beginning. Well, first of all, at 4035,
00:22:31 --> 00:22:33 I don't like the way that the guard looks at
00:22:33 --> 00:22:40 Vito. At all. Watch this. Why is he looking so
00:22:40 --> 00:22:45 far down his... Not the up and down. Yeah. At
00:22:45 --> 00:22:49 least he didn't lick his lips. He did as soon
00:22:49 --> 00:22:53 as they cut away from him. But this is the start
00:22:53 --> 00:22:58 of the ass. The ass. So then we hear the guard
00:22:58 --> 00:23:02 saying, your ass belongs to me now. Maybe there's
00:23:02 --> 00:23:05 a lot of soap dropping in the shower? I mean,
00:23:05 --> 00:23:07 I get it. I get that that's where we're at right
00:23:07 --> 00:23:10 now. But we're just getting an overwhelming amount
00:23:10 --> 00:23:13 of ass. Like, just as a topic, as a whole. Like,
00:23:13 --> 00:23:16 visually, ass. Metaphorically, ass. Verbally,
00:23:16 --> 00:23:19 ass. Assholes. Ass butt. Stick you in the hole.
00:23:19 --> 00:23:23 Another choice phrase. I don't know how many
00:23:23 --> 00:23:29 more ways they can say it. Peaches. Vito receives
00:23:29 --> 00:23:31 a message from Joe telling him to find a Leo
00:23:31 --> 00:23:34 Galante who can help him out. While searching
00:23:34 --> 00:23:37 for him, Vito runs into Brian O 'Neill. They
00:23:37 --> 00:23:39 fight, and then they get sent to the hole as
00:23:39 --> 00:23:43 a result. Okay, but during the fight, at 45 -35,
00:23:44 --> 00:23:49 Vito taunts O 'Neill by saying, I believe. This
00:23:49 --> 00:23:52 is going to be easier than that time I shoved
00:23:52 --> 00:23:59 a potato up your mother's ass. Huh? What? This
00:23:59 --> 00:24:00 is going to be easier than the time I shoved
00:24:00 --> 00:24:04 a potato up your mother's ass. Excuse me? I didn't
00:24:04 --> 00:24:07 catch that. I didn't know. For some reason, that
00:24:07 --> 00:24:10 didn't really hit me while watching that scene.
00:24:10 --> 00:24:14 But again, with the butt theme. Yeah, more ass.
00:24:14 --> 00:24:19 Yeah. Is there some connection that we don't
00:24:19 --> 00:24:21 know about? Are we too innocent to know about
00:24:21 --> 00:24:24 what a potato up an ass means? Or is he just
00:24:24 --> 00:24:27 being... Colorful hair. Googling it. Better you
00:24:27 --> 00:24:37 than me. Wait. The first thing. Show me your
00:24:37 --> 00:24:44 screen right now. First trend. Why are people
00:24:44 --> 00:24:47 shoving potatoes up their butts? Fair question.
00:24:47 --> 00:24:50 Second, please do not stick frozen potatoes up
00:24:50 --> 00:24:53 your butt to treat medical conditions. Three,
00:24:53 --> 00:24:56 YouTube. People who put potatoes up their butts.
00:24:56 --> 00:25:01 Donkey of the day. What? Four, fry butt. Never
00:25:01 --> 00:25:05 did we need to ask people not to shove dot dot
00:25:05 --> 00:25:08 dot. Putting potatoes up your butt won't cure
00:25:08 --> 00:25:15 hemorrhoids. Oh my god. But this feels like something
00:25:15 --> 00:25:18 that wouldn't have existed in 1945. This one
00:25:18 --> 00:25:21 though, Leah. A vicar came in once with a potato
00:25:21 --> 00:25:24 stuck up his bum. He was in his mid -fifties
00:25:24 --> 00:25:26 with gray hair and well -spoken. He walked in
00:25:26 --> 00:25:29 and said, I had an accident. Wait, wait, wait,
00:25:29 --> 00:25:32 hold on. Look, I am not a doctor and if the local
00:25:32 --> 00:25:38 ass man confirms my suspicions that baking a
00:25:38 --> 00:25:44 potato in my dot dot dot What the hell, Kathy?
00:25:45 --> 00:25:49 I don't know, what? I think we should move on.
00:25:49 --> 00:25:52 Yeah, we should. Wait, wait, wait. I have to
00:25:52 --> 00:25:56 say, the prison top dog has a Hitler mustache?
00:25:56 --> 00:25:59 Questionable choice of mustache for that day
00:25:59 --> 00:26:03 and age, for sure. Two days later, Galante visits
00:26:03 --> 00:26:06 Vito. He, I guess he just has free reign here,
00:26:06 --> 00:26:10 it seems. He does not seem fond of Clemente,
00:26:10 --> 00:26:12 but sees that Vito could be useful after having
00:26:12 --> 00:26:15 witnessed him fight. Essentially, we undergo
00:26:15 --> 00:26:17 multiple sessions of combat training in exchange
00:26:17 --> 00:26:21 for his protection. This whole chapter is just
00:26:21 --> 00:26:24 fighting in jail. Yeah. Why did Vito start spilling
00:26:24 --> 00:26:27 out the beans about the initiation fee and things
00:26:27 --> 00:26:30 like that? That's just going to lead you to get
00:26:30 --> 00:26:33 hurt by Luca and Henry when he leaves jail. Yeah,
00:26:33 --> 00:26:36 it seems weird because, sure, we trust Joe for
00:26:36 --> 00:26:38 some reason. And he gave us this guy's name.
00:26:38 --> 00:26:42 But Galante says he doesn't like Clemente. So
00:26:42 --> 00:26:44 I don't know why he's just like, yeah, we have
00:26:44 --> 00:26:46 to pay five grand. But this is when we learn
00:26:46 --> 00:26:50 that that's basically BS. Galante or his right
00:26:50 --> 00:26:52 -hand man, one of them says, when this gets out,
00:26:52 --> 00:26:54 Alberto and Luca are going to have a lot of explaining
00:26:54 --> 00:26:58 to do. So I think Alberto might be the guy that
00:26:58 --> 00:27:01 slapped Luca, but I'm not positive. But essentially,
00:27:01 --> 00:27:03 charging money to get into the family is a big
00:27:03 --> 00:27:08 nah. You don't do it. So we have a few more fights.
00:27:09 --> 00:27:11 Vito's getting along with Leo. And then at some
00:27:11 --> 00:27:15 point, Vito is informed that he has a visitor.
00:27:16 --> 00:27:20 Lo and behold, it's his sister. But it's a shocking
00:27:20 --> 00:27:23 bomb that she drops that she's getting married
00:27:23 --> 00:27:26 and their mom isn't doing well. Yeah, I don't
00:27:26 --> 00:27:28 know how long he's been in here at this point.
00:27:28 --> 00:27:31 Yeah. I think it's maybe a couple years into
00:27:31 --> 00:27:34 his 10 years. I have trouble with this scene
00:27:34 --> 00:27:39 because or the following scene too. His relationship
00:27:39 --> 00:27:41 with his mom and his sister is really weird.
00:27:41 --> 00:27:44 We never really see much connection between them.
00:27:44 --> 00:27:47 So, and I'm going to fast forward a bit. When
00:27:47 --> 00:27:51 his mom dies and he's just wrecked, I understand
00:27:51 --> 00:27:54 you'll have grief no matter what, but why is
00:27:54 --> 00:27:58 this happening? Why even make these characters
00:27:58 --> 00:28:02 if you're not really going to utilize that story
00:28:02 --> 00:28:06 and relationship arc to benefit Vito's ability
00:28:06 --> 00:28:09 to look more human? My question I asked earlier
00:28:09 --> 00:28:11 about would he have just walked away from the
00:28:11 --> 00:28:14 mafia if he hadn't gotten arrested? He tells
00:28:14 --> 00:28:18 Francesca to go to Joe's and take my money, use
00:28:18 --> 00:28:22 it for your wedding, and to get mom a good doctor.
00:28:22 --> 00:28:26 So he obviously had more money than just paying
00:28:26 --> 00:28:28 the loan shark back, right? So he could have
00:28:28 --> 00:28:30 walked away from the mafia sooner. And also,
00:28:30 --> 00:28:32 why'd he wait so long to pay them back if he
00:28:32 --> 00:28:35 has this extra money at Joe's? I don't understand
00:28:35 --> 00:28:39 that. After everything that happened, he shows
00:28:39 --> 00:28:43 no remorse about his wrongdoings. He's sad that
00:28:43 --> 00:28:46 his mom died, but he's not sad that he did what
00:28:46 --> 00:28:49 he did, landed in jail, and he never got to see
00:28:49 --> 00:28:52 his mom again. Mm -hmm. I struggle with that.
00:28:52 --> 00:28:55 Yeah. I'm struggling to find the moral appeal
00:28:55 --> 00:28:59 of Vito. One more week later, he's waking up
00:28:59 --> 00:29:01 in his cell and the guard's like, come on, you
00:29:01 --> 00:29:04 gotta clean the toilets. And ironically, he does
00:29:04 --> 00:29:07 not clean the turlets. He cleans the urinals.
00:29:09 --> 00:29:14 I don't... So, okay. He's cleaning the urinals.
00:29:14 --> 00:29:17 He gets one done, moves over to the next, and
00:29:17 --> 00:29:19 then the guard comes up and just pees in the
00:29:19 --> 00:29:21 one he just cleaned. And then why'd he zip his
00:29:21 --> 00:29:25 fly up with such gusto like that? Why do we need
00:29:25 --> 00:29:29 this? It's so unnecessary. And before we even
00:29:29 --> 00:29:33 start the scene... It starts out with men sharing
00:29:33 --> 00:29:38 with their boxers on together. I guess that was
00:29:38 --> 00:29:40 the easiest way for them to go about not having
00:29:40 --> 00:29:42 nudity. Well, maybe they just shouldn't even
00:29:42 --> 00:29:45 make that scene. Well, yeah, because speaking
00:29:45 --> 00:29:49 of nudity, I was playing, obviously. And then
00:29:49 --> 00:29:51 I saw like a collectible, like, oh, cool, collectible.
00:29:51 --> 00:29:53 I pick it up and it's just boobs in my face.
00:29:54 --> 00:29:59 I'm like, whoa. It's like some pinup thing. So
00:29:59 --> 00:30:02 I had to do like a hard cut in the gameplay at
00:30:02 --> 00:30:04 some point because I'm like, I don't know what
00:30:04 --> 00:30:07 to do about these boobs that pop up for one second.
00:30:08 --> 00:30:12 But speaking of the shower, he's sent to shower
00:30:12 --> 00:30:15 where he becomes a target. And he says, you picked
00:30:15 --> 00:30:18 the wrong ass to drill. So they get in a fight.
00:30:18 --> 00:30:21 He gets sent to the hole. But the guard tosses
00:30:21 --> 00:30:23 him an envelope. And this is when we learned
00:30:23 --> 00:30:26 that his mother has died and that she died while
00:30:26 --> 00:30:30 Francesco was visiting him. And my note is, Vito
00:30:30 --> 00:30:33 sucks, man. His fault that Francesca had to leave
00:30:33 --> 00:30:39 her side and die alone. And he is so selfish.
00:30:39 --> 00:30:43 Just even consider what his mom needed that wasn't
00:30:43 --> 00:30:46 money. She never asked for money. She asked for
00:30:46 --> 00:30:49 time with her son. And I don't like how he never
00:30:49 --> 00:30:52 learns his lesson. Absolutely. I mean, it seems
00:30:52 --> 00:30:55 like anything that happens like this where he
00:30:55 --> 00:30:58 should feel... guilt or try to improve himself
00:30:58 --> 00:31:00 to not let situations like this happen again
00:31:00 --> 00:31:03 instead of doing that he just it's like he tells
00:31:03 --> 00:31:05 himself I'm a piece of shit I'm going to continue
00:31:05 --> 00:31:08 to be a piece of shit and so the next thing he
00:31:08 --> 00:31:13 does is he's told to beat up Brian O 'Neill but
00:31:13 --> 00:31:17 he kills him did you have a choice to not kill
00:31:17 --> 00:31:21 him no it makes you kill him oh my gosh you couldn't
00:31:21 --> 00:31:23 just like get beaten up by him and not kill him
00:31:23 --> 00:31:27 right And of course, Vito gets away with it.
00:31:27 --> 00:31:29 And not only does he get away with it, he gets
00:31:29 --> 00:31:32 a prison apartment. I don't understand that.
00:31:32 --> 00:31:34 How did he not learn his lesson with not killing
00:31:34 --> 00:31:37 more people? I get he's in here for stamps, but
00:31:37 --> 00:31:39 they obviously know he's a dangerous criminal.
00:31:39 --> 00:31:41 And he's just proving their point right now.
00:31:41 --> 00:31:45 And his mom just died. He should feel like, I
00:31:45 --> 00:31:47 want to be a better man for my mom. No, he's
00:31:47 --> 00:31:49 like, you know what? I'm just going to kill more
00:31:49 --> 00:31:52 people, disappoint my mom, and disrespect my
00:31:52 --> 00:31:54 last name. He should be like, I'm just going
00:31:54 --> 00:31:56 to take my licks. I'm going to not kill this
00:31:56 --> 00:31:58 guy. But if he did kill this guy, he should have
00:31:58 --> 00:32:01 gotten his sentence increased instead of being
00:32:01 --> 00:32:06 moved to Galante's lush apartment where Galante
00:32:06 --> 00:32:08 says, I'm going to do something about getting
00:32:08 --> 00:32:11 you out of here early. And he does. Vito just
00:32:11 --> 00:32:14 cannot be punished. That's just like sending
00:32:14 --> 00:32:17 the wrong message and I don't like it. Vito wins
00:32:17 --> 00:32:21 even when he loses. I need to know if people
00:32:21 --> 00:32:23 like Vito. At some point towards the end of the
00:32:23 --> 00:32:26 game, I need to go through Reddit and get their
00:32:26 --> 00:32:29 thoughts because I'm not liking him. I don't
00:32:29 --> 00:32:31 know if they're going to redeem his character
00:32:31 --> 00:32:34 or if it's just going to keep going downhill.
00:32:35 --> 00:32:37 We skipped over a couple things. So Vito and
00:32:37 --> 00:32:40 Galante are chatting about Clemente. And Galante
00:32:40 --> 00:32:42 says that he's going to have a lot of explaining
00:32:42 --> 00:32:44 to do in regards to the payment he wanted to
00:32:44 --> 00:32:48 join the family. And Vito says, like, explaining
00:32:48 --> 00:32:51 to who. I thought Clemente was the boss. There's
00:32:51 --> 00:32:54 more than one family in Empire Bay. There's three.
00:32:54 --> 00:32:56 Each family controls their own neighborhoods.
00:32:57 --> 00:33:00 There's a system of rules. And if there's any
00:33:00 --> 00:33:02 disagreements, the bosses of all the families
00:33:02 --> 00:33:05 meet to work things out. That's the commission.
00:33:06 --> 00:33:09 And the commission is made up of Clemente Falcone
00:33:09 --> 00:33:12 and Frank Vinci. And it sounds like Galante's
00:33:12 --> 00:33:14 pretty tight with Vinci. And this is who he's
00:33:14 --> 00:33:16 going to talk to about getting Vito's sentence
00:33:16 --> 00:33:20 reduced. Which he does. I am frustrated with
00:33:20 --> 00:33:22 that. I'm frustrated with how the game is rewarding
00:33:22 --> 00:33:26 Vito by being a bad person. I'll get more into
00:33:26 --> 00:33:28 depth with this at the end of the game, and I
00:33:28 --> 00:33:30 don't want to talk too much about it, but my
00:33:30 --> 00:33:32 thought about Vito right now, and I haven't seen
00:33:32 --> 00:33:35 the third game, I don't know if he's in it, but
00:33:35 --> 00:33:38 I like his character if he's being set up to
00:33:38 --> 00:33:41 be a villain. But if this is a one -and -done
00:33:41 --> 00:33:43 Vito, or if he's supposed to be a guy we root
00:33:43 --> 00:33:46 for in the next game, I hate it. I don't think
00:33:46 --> 00:33:48 they can continue having him in the third game
00:33:48 --> 00:33:54 if this is the trajectory he's on. But yeah,
00:33:54 --> 00:33:56 I guess that's my closing thought for part two.
00:33:56 --> 00:33:59 You got anything else? No, I'm just frustrated
00:33:59 --> 00:34:02 with him and we're going to keep beating the
00:34:02 --> 00:34:06 same horse to death. But for now, part two, we're
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