Welcome back to Red Dead Redemption! In part three, we analyze our third gameplay video where John makes connections in Mexico while on Bill's trail, inserting himself in the middle of a revolution. In this episode, we question Rickett's lock-breaking strategy, Luisa's dramatics and Abraham's... memory issues. More seriously, we debate whether John is desperate or dumb, and why he didn't cut ties with de Santa earlier.
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00:00:00 --> 00:00:03 In this episode, did we save her or did we almost
00:00:03 --> 00:00:07 kill her? Is Ricketts drunk? And did we really
00:00:07 --> 00:00:13 do all of that for only two people? Thank you
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00:00:15 --> 00:00:17 is Leah. And my name is Kathy. We are two friends
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00:00:29 --> 00:00:38 be a similar experience for you. So let's get
00:00:38 --> 00:00:41 into scene one. John finds Ricketts at a saloon
00:00:41 --> 00:00:44 where he's talking to two men about Javier. One
00:00:44 --> 00:00:47 of the men's sister has been taken by Javier
00:00:47 --> 00:00:51 and his men, it sounds like. But they don't recall
00:00:51 --> 00:00:55 Bill being with him. They head to El Matadero
00:00:55 --> 00:00:58 to find info about the sister. Her name is Luisa.
00:00:58 --> 00:01:02 On the ride, we learn that Luisa is a rebel and
00:01:02 --> 00:01:05 is close to the rebel leader, Abraham Reyes.
00:01:06 --> 00:01:08 Ricketts says she's young and pretty, which is
00:01:08 --> 00:01:13 apparently enough reason for Allende. Again,
00:01:13 --> 00:01:16 that's how John says it. It's hard. I barely
00:01:16 --> 00:01:19 took Spanish, but it's hard for me to not want
00:01:19 --> 00:01:24 to say Allende. I can barely say Abraham in its
00:01:24 --> 00:01:27 correct way. I know. I say the words Abraham,
00:01:28 --> 00:01:30 but so. I'm sure we'll flip it out. I mean, by
00:01:30 --> 00:01:33 no means are we Spanish experts. By no means.
00:01:33 --> 00:01:36 Did I want to take it in high school? No. Did
00:01:36 --> 00:01:41 I have to? Yes. Was I bad at it? Also, yes. But
00:01:41 --> 00:01:46 some things are still with me. Anyway, so Allende
00:01:46 --> 00:01:49 sounds like he's kind of a creep. Kind of a perv.
00:01:50 --> 00:01:54 there's one part where it's um the spanish speaker
00:01:54 --> 00:01:58 ricketts and john and pretty much this entire
00:01:58 --> 00:02:00 game up through here whenever they're speaking
00:02:00 --> 00:02:03 spanish we get no translation and then here i
00:02:03 --> 00:02:05 feel like maybe it's a moment for the players
00:02:05 --> 00:02:07 but john's like yeah i got it when ricketts is
00:02:07 --> 00:02:10 trying to translate but it's that part was obvious
00:02:10 --> 00:02:13 enough so i feel like that's exactly how we feel
00:02:13 --> 00:02:16 is like this part we got it but everything else
00:02:16 --> 00:02:19 why didn't you give us any context clues I like
00:02:19 --> 00:02:23 it just because it seems like it's John's perspective.
00:02:24 --> 00:02:26 Like he pipes in when he knows something, which
00:02:26 --> 00:02:29 is pretty obvious that most people would probably
00:02:29 --> 00:02:32 know it, even just by context. But when there's
00:02:32 --> 00:02:35 full conversations, yeah, we get Spanish subtitles,
00:02:35 --> 00:02:39 but not English translation. And so I think that's
00:02:39 --> 00:02:42 just indicating to us what John is understanding.
00:02:43 --> 00:02:44 I mean, I'm fine with that. I think it's just
00:02:44 --> 00:02:47 hilarious too when John's like, yeah, I got it.
00:02:47 --> 00:02:50 Yeah. He's like, I'm stupid, but I'm not that
00:02:50 --> 00:02:57 stupid. Come on. Okay, but Kathy, we send this
00:02:57 --> 00:03:00 butcher, Carlos, to distract two guards from
00:03:00 --> 00:03:03 the entrance of the cave, right? But not five
00:03:03 --> 00:03:06 seconds later, we're in a massive shootout with
00:03:06 --> 00:03:08 the whole army. I'm like, what was the point
00:03:08 --> 00:03:12 of distracting the guards? Yeah. Literally no
00:03:12 --> 00:03:14 point for Carlos to be in this game. Sorry, bud.
00:03:15 --> 00:03:17 Maybe Carlos was like the nephew of the game
00:03:17 --> 00:03:19 developer and they had to give him something
00:03:19 --> 00:03:23 to do. Oh, what's your next note? About blowing
00:03:23 --> 00:03:29 open the door. Yeah. What's up with that? That's
00:03:29 --> 00:03:32 really what the question is. You're trying to
00:03:32 --> 00:03:35 be subtle, and then yet you blow up this entire
00:03:35 --> 00:03:37 door when you could easily kick it open. And
00:03:37 --> 00:03:39 the thing is that you could have killed everyone
00:03:39 --> 00:03:41 there. If it was just like a cave, you don't
00:03:41 --> 00:03:43 know what's in there, that entire thing could
00:03:43 --> 00:03:46 have collapsed and killed Louisa. I'm so glad
00:03:46 --> 00:03:49 you reacted to this the same way I did. Because
00:03:49 --> 00:03:52 I was, okay, do you really need dynamite to open
00:03:52 --> 00:03:55 that cell? Can you not shoot the lock? How strong
00:03:55 --> 00:03:57 could they have possibly built this thing? And
00:03:57 --> 00:04:01 then the best part. So giant explosion to get
00:04:01 --> 00:04:06 this one handmade cell door in a cave open. And
00:04:06 --> 00:04:09 then Ricketts comes out with Louisa flung over
00:04:09 --> 00:04:12 his shoulder and says, poor girl's barely alive.
00:04:12 --> 00:04:15 Well, maybe it's because you used dynamite three
00:04:15 --> 00:04:18 feet away from her. But that's just my thought.
00:04:19 --> 00:04:22 They do save her. They do not kill her accidentally
00:04:22 --> 00:04:25 by using dynamite. And she says she doesn't think
00:04:25 --> 00:04:28 Javier was with the men who captured her, but
00:04:28 --> 00:04:30 she remembers the name from prison. She says
00:04:30 --> 00:04:35 bad people spoke of him. Sometime later, John
00:04:35 --> 00:04:38 finds Landon playing poker at the saloon. He's
00:04:38 --> 00:04:40 forced to join the game, and then they get accused
00:04:40 --> 00:04:44 of cheating by Moeller, the German guy. Things
00:04:44 --> 00:04:51 escalate, and then our favorite moment. So we're
00:04:51 --> 00:04:55 watching. And you go, isn't this like a Mexican
00:04:55 --> 00:04:57 standoff or something? And you're like, hold
00:04:57 --> 00:05:00 on, hold on, hold on. Wait, wait, wait, hold
00:05:00 --> 00:05:03 on. And then Moeller goes, there must be a name
00:05:03 --> 00:05:08 for this. That joke is so underrated. It's right
00:05:08 --> 00:05:11 up there for me with, I don't like women, partner.
00:05:13 --> 00:05:17 This one is too good. Well, after the Mexican
00:05:17 --> 00:05:20 standoff. John is challenged to a duel. He wins.
00:05:20 --> 00:05:22 I didn't even try to just disarm Muller. I'm
00:05:22 --> 00:05:26 like, you know what? You're a bit excessive.
00:05:27 --> 00:05:32 You want it to be done. I don't, you know, he
00:05:32 --> 00:05:36 asked for it. Someone else then takes a woman
00:05:36 --> 00:05:40 hostage in order to force John to duel him. Okay,
00:05:40 --> 00:05:44 he wins. And then a town -wide shootout begins.
00:05:45 --> 00:05:47 What's up with all this shooting? Do they have
00:05:47 --> 00:05:51 excess ammo to use? Right, they're in a war.
00:05:52 --> 00:05:55 Why are they wasting bullets like this? Why won't
00:05:55 --> 00:05:57 you save your strength against the common enemy
00:05:57 --> 00:06:01 here? Why? This is so unnecessary. Next, John
00:06:01 --> 00:06:05 goes looking for Allende, but finds Captain DeSanta,
00:06:05 --> 00:06:08 who is interesting. I immediately don't like
00:06:08 --> 00:06:11 him. And I don't like how he jokes around. Immediately,
00:06:11 --> 00:06:15 I don't trust him, nor do I like him. So he says
00:06:15 --> 00:06:17 that Allende is trying to keep the people alive
00:06:17 --> 00:06:21 and preserve order. We'll see. John tells him
00:06:21 --> 00:06:23 who he's been trying to find, and DeSantis says
00:06:23 --> 00:06:25 that they're probably with the rebels, again,
00:06:26 --> 00:06:29 led by Reyes. They don't know where he is, but
00:06:29 --> 00:06:31 they're trying to lure him into a trap, so John
00:06:31 --> 00:06:34 joins them. So there's some conversation about
00:06:34 --> 00:06:38 how John needs to find Bill, but he's also not
00:06:38 --> 00:06:42 paying to do it. What incentive does John have?
00:06:43 --> 00:06:48 to do this for for free i guess i'm also assuming
00:06:48 --> 00:06:51 that he did some jail time after everything that
00:06:51 --> 00:06:55 went wrong but i what do you think do we i guess
00:06:55 --> 00:06:59 do we know enough to guess why he's he's doing
00:06:59 --> 00:07:02 this for free we've had references that he's
00:07:02 --> 00:07:04 here against his will and in a couple scenes
00:07:04 --> 00:07:09 we'll learn more exactly why that is I think
00:07:09 --> 00:07:12 it's when he's riding with Espinoza, whatever
00:07:12 --> 00:07:15 that guy's name is, in a few scenes. But basically,
00:07:15 --> 00:07:18 the government kidnapped his wife and son and
00:07:18 --> 00:07:21 is using them as leverage to force him to do
00:07:21 --> 00:07:25 this. Okay. I didn't realize it was because they
00:07:25 --> 00:07:28 were kidnapped. The plan is to escort a train
00:07:28 --> 00:07:31 meant to look like a supply train. They assume
00:07:31 --> 00:07:33 the rebels will attack it, and they do. They
00:07:33 --> 00:07:35 fight them off, and then sometime later, the
00:07:35 --> 00:07:38 rebels launch another attack. And then they steal
00:07:38 --> 00:07:41 the train. John is enlisted, and only John is
00:07:41 --> 00:07:43 enlisted, to stop the train before it crosses
00:07:43 --> 00:07:47 the bridge. This entire scene, the fight scene,
00:07:47 --> 00:07:50 John's pretty much doing it all by himself. And
00:07:50 --> 00:07:53 it also shows how useless DeSanta is. Mm -hmm.
00:07:54 --> 00:07:57 And again, John's just being... I mean, the government's
00:07:57 --> 00:08:00 manipulated him into doing this, but now the
00:08:00 --> 00:08:02 Mexican army's manipulating him into doing things
00:08:02 --> 00:08:05 because if he doesn't help them, they're not
00:08:05 --> 00:08:07 going to give him information. And he has to
00:08:07 --> 00:08:12 go with whatever he has at the moment to ensure
00:08:12 --> 00:08:15 his family stays alive. So it's kind of, you
00:08:15 --> 00:08:18 can start to understand it, but it's still frustrating.
00:08:19 --> 00:08:25 But also, who blew up the bridge? Okay, so it's
00:08:25 --> 00:08:28 either the rebels or it's either the Santa's
00:08:28 --> 00:08:32 people making a mistake. I don't know. But maybe
00:08:32 --> 00:08:34 there's a third group of people out there that
00:08:34 --> 00:08:37 are screwing with both parties. Because the rebels
00:08:37 --> 00:08:39 are stealing it because they think it's supplies,
00:08:39 --> 00:08:41 right? Mm -hmm. So they wouldn't want to destroy
00:08:41 --> 00:08:45 it. John was sent to stop it before it crosses
00:08:45 --> 00:08:47 the bridge. Because I think if it crosses the
00:08:47 --> 00:08:49 bridge, then the rebels are free. They have their
00:08:49 --> 00:08:52 supplies. But why would they need to stop the
00:08:52 --> 00:08:54 train if they rigged it to explode? I don't know.
00:08:55 --> 00:08:58 I don't know either. Burning question. Maybe
00:08:58 --> 00:09:00 we'll ask Reddit. We didn't really do any Reddits
00:09:00 --> 00:09:03 last year. We were too busy. We were dying. This
00:09:03 --> 00:09:06 year... We will have time. And again, you have
00:09:06 --> 00:09:09 diapers behind you. Oh, that's just an empty
00:09:09 --> 00:09:15 box. You always have diapers behind you. Yes.
00:09:16 --> 00:09:19 What was that? Season one? Season two? Season
00:09:19 --> 00:09:20 one or season... I think it was like... season
00:09:20 --> 00:09:24 one i think i had like six boxes of diapers just
00:09:24 --> 00:09:27 stacked up ready for baby showers this is that
00:09:27 --> 00:09:30 empty box of diapers it's just i'm using it for
00:09:30 --> 00:09:32 my recycling but i love how you notice the diapers
00:09:32 --> 00:09:37 i'm just like wait i'm getting deja vu where
00:09:37 --> 00:09:39 were we okay scene three are you ready for that
00:09:39 --> 00:09:43 okay sometime later again john finds ricketts
00:09:43 --> 00:09:47 again in the saloon again Landon questions John,
00:09:47 --> 00:09:50 who reveals he's tried to live a better life
00:09:50 --> 00:09:53 since the gang left him after being shot. I tried
00:09:53 --> 00:09:57 to go straight. I did. I left the gang after
00:09:57 --> 00:10:00 the gang left me. Left me to die after I'd been
00:10:00 --> 00:10:05 shot. Ain't all gone crazy anyhow. Our old leader?
00:10:06 --> 00:10:09 Fellow you probably heard of. Anyway, he more
00:10:09 --> 00:10:11 or less lost his mind, went and shot a bunch
00:10:11 --> 00:10:15 of people unfair like. I got shot in a robbery.
00:10:16 --> 00:10:19 They left me, and I left them. So we got some
00:10:19 --> 00:10:22 more background on kind of what went down. Just
00:10:22 --> 00:10:25 to clarify, he was left behind when he got shot,
00:10:26 --> 00:10:29 and then in the start of the game, he was also
00:10:29 --> 00:10:31 shot and left behind. So did Bill do that twice?
00:10:32 --> 00:10:34 John is shot during a robbery. We don't know
00:10:34 --> 00:10:37 by who, by what side. We just know that basically
00:10:37 --> 00:10:40 they left him for dead. They cut him as dead
00:10:40 --> 00:10:42 weight. Man, this man has been through it twice.
00:10:44 --> 00:10:46 Throughout this conversation, we both kind of
00:10:46 --> 00:10:50 felt like Ricketts is drunk a bit. Like he's
00:10:50 --> 00:10:54 being kind of weird. He, yeah. Okay. So they're
00:10:54 --> 00:10:56 talking and getting drunk. And then Louisa runs
00:10:56 --> 00:10:59 in and asks them to help save prisoners who are
00:10:59 --> 00:11:02 about to be executed without a trial. We managed
00:11:02 --> 00:11:05 to hijack the prisoner wagon and drive it safely
00:11:05 --> 00:11:07 to America where we released them. But do you
00:11:07 --> 00:11:09 have anything before we get there? I think this
00:11:09 --> 00:11:12 is just proving DeSanta wrong. So earlier back
00:11:12 --> 00:11:14 in, I think it was like scene one, when they're
00:11:14 --> 00:11:18 writing to stop the train, DeSanta says that,
00:11:18 --> 00:11:21 well, in Mexico, we have a whole justice system.
00:11:21 --> 00:11:23 And immediately you cut to the scene where it's
00:11:23 --> 00:11:28 like, no, you don't. Speaking of DeSanta, as
00:11:28 --> 00:11:33 they're writing to save the prisoners, Ricketts
00:11:33 --> 00:11:35 gets kind of mad at John for his involvement
00:11:35 --> 00:11:38 with DeSanta. But John's reaction is basically
00:11:38 --> 00:11:42 like, I don't want to be here. If you could help
00:11:42 --> 00:11:44 me more, I wouldn't need to, you know, talk to
00:11:44 --> 00:11:47 this guy. This is where John starts to get frustrated
00:11:47 --> 00:11:50 because now he's in the middle. Both sides like
00:11:50 --> 00:11:53 him. Both sides hate him. And he's like, I just
00:11:53 --> 00:11:56 want to go home. I feel for John because I know
00:11:56 --> 00:11:59 he needs the information. But my frustration
00:11:59 --> 00:12:02 is if you know this person isn't really trustworthy,
00:12:02 --> 00:12:06 why? believe him like i know you're desperate
00:12:06 --> 00:12:09 but we don't know just ain't enough yet but the
00:12:09 --> 00:12:12 more we know him the more john needs to start
00:12:12 --> 00:12:15 thinking critically and thinking that some people
00:12:15 --> 00:12:18 might have bad intention and feed me bad information
00:12:18 --> 00:12:22 i know i want to see john being a bit more intimidating
00:12:22 --> 00:12:26 because we know he has it in him okay but yes
00:12:26 --> 00:12:29 so we do a lot of work to free these prisoners
00:12:29 --> 00:12:32 and there was at least two prison wagons maybe
00:12:32 --> 00:12:34 three But we just take one across the river and
00:12:34 --> 00:12:38 there's two prisoners in it. What happened to
00:12:38 --> 00:12:40 the other wagon? Did we really do all of this
00:12:40 --> 00:12:44 for only two people? Apparently. I don't get
00:12:44 --> 00:12:47 it. Well, it sounds like we'll be parting ways
00:12:47 --> 00:12:50 with Ricketts. He tells John to talk to Louisa
00:12:50 --> 00:12:53 and that she can help him because she's well
00:12:53 --> 00:12:56 connected. John rides to her family's house where
00:12:56 --> 00:12:58 they're getting ready to leave, except for Louisa.
00:12:58 --> 00:13:01 She wants to stay and fight. Her parents and
00:13:01 --> 00:13:03 brother are heading to the hills and her sister
00:13:03 --> 00:13:06 is being sent to the Yucatan. And Louisa asks
00:13:06 --> 00:13:09 John to take her to the docks. Too much work.
00:13:09 --> 00:13:10 She could have just gone to the docks herself.
00:13:11 --> 00:13:13 And how many blankets do they need to pack? Right?
00:13:14 --> 00:13:16 There is something. I do want to go back. I think
00:13:16 --> 00:13:20 I recorded the timestamp around 5420 where it
00:13:20 --> 00:13:22 was just me going like, why don't you just run
00:13:22 --> 00:13:25 them over when John's... On the wagon. And then
00:13:25 --> 00:13:29 immediately, we do see that this guy's, like,
00:13:29 --> 00:13:35 flying after you run him over. Yeah. So good.
00:13:35 --> 00:13:38 I love the ragdoll physics in this game. It's
00:13:38 --> 00:13:41 so entertaining. Well, after a bumpy ride, we
00:13:41 --> 00:13:44 do get Miranda to safety, and then John heads
00:13:44 --> 00:13:46 back to Escalera to see DeSanta again, who's
00:13:46 --> 00:13:51 listening to Allende rant. John just sneaks a
00:13:51 --> 00:13:53 little introduction in there. When questioning
00:13:53 --> 00:13:56 him about Javier, he says the same thing, that
00:13:56 --> 00:13:58 he's the type of man that would join up with
00:13:58 --> 00:14:01 Reyes. While watching the gameplay, I wanted
00:14:01 --> 00:14:03 people to know how much we enjoyed watching the
00:14:03 --> 00:14:06 Santa cower while he was getting yelled at. You
00:14:06 --> 00:14:10 just like him being put in his place. Satisfying.
00:14:11 --> 00:14:13 So, Alinda says he'll help locate Bill and Javier,
00:14:13 --> 00:14:16 but tells John he has to help him out first.
00:14:16 --> 00:14:20 John is sent with the Santa to help clear out
00:14:20 --> 00:14:23 some rebels. and then burn the town they're staying
00:14:23 --> 00:14:26 in. I do have a question here. Do you think that
00:14:26 --> 00:14:28 they really needed John's help? Because John
00:14:28 --> 00:14:32 should have, in my opinion, been like, I'll help
00:14:32 --> 00:14:34 you, but you need to give me a little bit of
00:14:34 --> 00:14:37 information first. John is just going with whatever
00:14:37 --> 00:14:39 they say, and I think that really is frustrating
00:14:39 --> 00:14:42 for me because, come on, give him a small piece
00:14:42 --> 00:14:45 or some kind of incentive for him to keep doing
00:14:45 --> 00:14:48 your dirty work. Well, also, if Javier's a rebel,
00:14:48 --> 00:14:54 why not just... deliver him to john but anyway
00:14:54 --> 00:14:57 so they burn down the town and then soldiers
00:14:57 --> 00:15:01 take women for allende uh just a bonus they say
00:15:01 --> 00:15:09 no i don't like this i don't either uh and then
00:15:09 --> 00:15:13 i noticed as the scene fades out it shows the
00:15:13 --> 00:15:16 church on fire and it shows like the cross with
00:15:16 --> 00:15:17 flames behind it And I feel like that's just
00:15:17 --> 00:15:20 pretty good symbolism that I've missed until
00:15:20 --> 00:15:23 this point. I interpret that as that the one
00:15:23 --> 00:15:27 thing that unites everyone together, like that
00:15:27 --> 00:15:30 they see not necessarily power, but more authority
00:15:30 --> 00:15:33 and things they believe in is the church. And
00:15:33 --> 00:15:35 by destroying that, I feel like the symbolism
00:15:35 --> 00:15:39 is that now the colonel is the religion. Like
00:15:39 --> 00:15:43 he's the top dog kind of situation. Yeah, I agree.
00:15:43 --> 00:15:46 It's like he's playing God. And so there's a
00:15:46 --> 00:15:48 symbolism there. And then there's also the symbolism
00:15:48 --> 00:15:51 with John. He set it on fire. So it's symbolism
00:15:51 --> 00:15:55 of his part that he's now playing in it. Yeah,
00:15:55 --> 00:15:57 he's just doing this to fulfill his duties, get
00:15:57 --> 00:15:59 his family back. But he's still doing some bad
00:15:59 --> 00:16:05 things. He's not innocent. Moving on to our fourth
00:16:05 --> 00:16:08 scene. In Escalera, John is approached by DeSanta
00:16:08 --> 00:16:11 and some soldiers. He's asked to ride with them
00:16:11 --> 00:16:14 and says they've been betrayed. He assures John
00:16:14 --> 00:16:18 that they'll find the men you seek. So it sounds
00:16:18 --> 00:16:20 like the rebels have taken over an abandoned
00:16:20 --> 00:16:23 town, and they cannot be allowed to establish
00:16:23 --> 00:16:26 a stronghold, so they've been commanded to kill
00:16:26 --> 00:16:29 them all. Once there, a battle breaks out, ending
00:16:29 --> 00:16:33 with the rebels being defeated. Notes? My next
00:16:33 --> 00:16:35 note is about pleasure doing business with you
00:16:35 --> 00:16:40 boys. I can't remember when that happened. I
00:16:40 --> 00:16:44 don't either. Okay, ignore me. Keep going, keep
00:16:44 --> 00:16:47 going. So maybe it'll come back to you. But DeSantis
00:16:47 --> 00:16:50 says to John that they'll talk once the army
00:16:50 --> 00:16:52 gets back to Escalera. John replies, next time
00:16:52 --> 00:16:54 I see you, you better have some answers, Captain.
00:16:54 --> 00:16:57 So he's getting impatient now, which I'm like,
00:16:57 --> 00:17:01 finally, John, thank you. He lets him have this
00:17:01 --> 00:17:03 one, but kind of threatens him a little bit.
00:17:04 --> 00:17:06 John then rides to Louisa's house, which has
00:17:06 --> 00:17:09 been burned down, and she's just sitting on the
00:17:09 --> 00:17:13 hot coals. But she's beside herself because Reyes
00:17:13 --> 00:17:16 has been captured. She says he was on his way
00:17:16 --> 00:17:19 to meet her at a romantic spot and was ambushed.
00:17:19 --> 00:17:22 She says, in her hearts, we are married already.
00:17:23 --> 00:17:27 This is also when she gets pretty darn dramatic.
00:17:27 --> 00:17:31 She's like, I wait for my country. And about
00:17:31 --> 00:17:35 everything. And I was like, calm down, calm down.
00:17:35 --> 00:17:39 But I can see her just being distressed that.
00:17:39 --> 00:17:42 Of course she falls for the top dog leading the
00:17:42 --> 00:17:47 revolution and so forth. She's very dramatic
00:17:47 --> 00:17:50 and very much wants to be a big part of this.
00:17:51 --> 00:17:54 She's young, so it makes sense for her character.
00:17:55 --> 00:17:57 And I like how you can sort of see John picking
00:17:57 --> 00:17:59 up on the same thing we're picking up on. He
00:17:59 --> 00:18:02 doesn't really respond. He just nods his head,
00:18:02 --> 00:18:04 you know, and then it's like, well, let's go
00:18:04 --> 00:18:08 get him. He understands. Does John realize the
00:18:08 --> 00:18:11 dangers he's putting himself in by helping both
00:18:11 --> 00:18:16 the rebels and DeSanta's group? I don't know.
00:18:16 --> 00:18:20 I don't think he's taking the time to think about
00:18:20 --> 00:18:23 that. Though he should be. And I also think he's
00:18:23 --> 00:18:27 just trying to be a better person still. And
00:18:27 --> 00:18:31 so helping Luisa is part of that. I mean, who's
00:18:31 --> 00:18:35 just going to leave a sad, weeping woman? on
00:18:35 --> 00:18:39 a pile of burned down house. Santa would have
00:18:39 --> 00:18:41 left her. You'd have to be pretty heartless to
00:18:41 --> 00:18:45 do that. And John's not heartless. They set out
00:18:45 --> 00:18:48 to rescue him. John sneaks into the prison just
00:18:48 --> 00:18:50 in time to save Abraham from being executed.
00:18:52 --> 00:18:55 Reyes is immediately not what we expect after
00:18:55 --> 00:19:02 all the praise Louisa has been giving him. Am
00:19:02 --> 00:19:07 I wrong? You're not wrong. We, considering how
00:19:07 --> 00:19:11 we know he's one of the leaders, and we just
00:19:11 --> 00:19:14 hear Louisa praise him, which I know she's a
00:19:14 --> 00:19:16 bit dramatic, but still, we're like, high hopes.
00:19:17 --> 00:19:20 And you see this man, which we pretty much, at
00:19:20 --> 00:19:26 one point, falls off the horse. We'll get there.
00:19:26 --> 00:19:29 But yeah, he doesn't even remember her name.
00:19:29 --> 00:19:34 He keeps calling her Laura. Anyway, moving on
00:19:34 --> 00:19:37 to the ragdoll off the horse. So there's two
00:19:37 --> 00:19:40 horses in this prison, but apparently Reyes cannot
00:19:40 --> 00:19:43 ride in his current state, even though he's running
00:19:43 --> 00:19:47 and walking. And he hops. He can hop onto a horse.
00:19:48 --> 00:19:50 Yeah, so he jumps onto the back of John's horse.
00:19:50 --> 00:19:55 We're galloping full speed. I don't know if he
00:19:55 --> 00:19:59 gets shot. Or what happened, but he just, like,
00:20:00 --> 00:20:02 there's maybe a brief T -pose in there. And then
00:20:02 --> 00:20:06 he just backflips off the horse. And I'm like,
00:20:06 --> 00:20:08 what happened? So I stop, and I look back, and
00:20:08 --> 00:20:13 he's just scurrying behind me to try to catch
00:20:13 --> 00:20:16 up and jumps back off the horse. That was too
00:20:16 --> 00:20:18 funny. This is why people need to watch the video
00:20:18 --> 00:20:20 episodes, because you'll be able to see it. I'll
00:20:20 --> 00:20:24 add it in there. He's also very dramatic saying
00:20:24 --> 00:20:26 like, oh, they're going to write songs about
00:20:26 --> 00:20:30 how I fought off a hundred of his men with my
00:20:30 --> 00:20:33 bare hands. But you needed saving, dude. You
00:20:33 --> 00:20:35 could have died and no one would have cared.
00:20:35 --> 00:20:38 Right? And my favorite thing is John's response.
00:20:38 --> 00:20:40 He says, all you've done is get on the back of
00:20:40 --> 00:20:43 this horse, my friend, and you barely managed
00:20:43 --> 00:20:47 that. And the fact that he fell off the horse
00:20:47 --> 00:20:51 in my gameplay just makes that line. pristine.
00:20:51 --> 00:20:56 It's so good. I think the reason why he and Louisa
00:20:56 --> 00:21:00 get along so well is that they both are super
00:21:00 --> 00:21:03 dramatic. Very dramatic, very head in the clouds
00:21:03 --> 00:21:07 kind of people. But he says, I will help you
00:21:07 --> 00:21:09 find those men and in return you will win a people
00:21:09 --> 00:21:12 her freedom. Then honestly, I think John could
00:21:12 --> 00:21:15 care less. And then he calls her Laura again.
00:21:15 --> 00:21:20 In song this time though. John rides back to
00:21:20 --> 00:21:22 Escalero the next day to hopefully get some answers
00:21:22 --> 00:21:25 out of DeSanta. When he arrives, DeSanta and
00:21:25 --> 00:21:27 his waiter friend, which is what he's referred
00:21:27 --> 00:21:29 to in this game. He doesn't have a name as far
00:21:29 --> 00:21:33 as I know. They're taking women to Allende. John's
00:21:33 --> 00:21:36 not too happy about it. Which feels good. At
00:21:36 --> 00:21:38 least one character is annoyed at this, right?
00:21:38 --> 00:21:41 Mm -hmm. They inform John. That they'll tell
00:21:41 --> 00:21:44 him where Javier is if he does a dangerous mission
00:21:44 --> 00:21:47 for them. Which, pause, didn't they say that
00:21:47 --> 00:21:49 they were already going to give him some, like,
00:21:49 --> 00:21:53 tips or whatnot? Like, explanations? So why are
00:21:53 --> 00:21:55 you, again, they're like, we'll tell you after
00:21:55 --> 00:21:57 you finish this. And then he does what he needs
00:21:57 --> 00:21:59 to do. John, come on. I thought you were done
00:21:59 --> 00:22:01 with this. I thought you were laying down the
00:22:01 --> 00:22:04 law. I feel like he spent Mexico a week and got
00:22:04 --> 00:22:07 nowhere. Why are they Adelante throwing up like
00:22:07 --> 00:22:14 that? Yeah. Yeah. This is why they need John
00:22:14 --> 00:22:17 to do things, because Zelenda is just getting
00:22:17 --> 00:22:20 drunk. Yeah, which, at this point, I do have
00:22:20 --> 00:22:23 some questions here about John and his moral
00:22:23 --> 00:22:26 compass and his ethics. Earlier, when we first
00:22:26 --> 00:22:29 meet him and DeSanta and their writing, he's
00:22:29 --> 00:22:31 pretty much sticking up for the rebels. Kind
00:22:31 --> 00:22:34 of pisses DeSanta off. Yet, when it comes, push
00:22:34 --> 00:22:36 comes to shove, he doesn't care about females
00:22:36 --> 00:22:39 getting raped. I thought... John would have more
00:22:39 --> 00:22:41 ethics and more of a moral compass because he
00:22:41 --> 00:22:45 like yeah he's done things wrong but he's a he's
00:22:45 --> 00:22:47 a new person now he's trying to fix what he's
00:22:47 --> 00:22:51 done wrong go back to his wife yet I'm confused
00:22:51 --> 00:22:53 like now he doesn't care about those I think
00:22:53 --> 00:22:56 he does care why didn't he do anything about
00:22:56 --> 00:22:59 those two girls or three getting dragged what
00:22:59 --> 00:23:02 can he do when they were just a bonus I mean
00:23:02 --> 00:23:05 he commented about that here he's like more loyal
00:23:05 --> 00:23:08 followers you know sarcastically So he's sort
00:23:08 --> 00:23:12 of saying things to express his displeasure at
00:23:12 --> 00:23:15 what they're doing. But what can he do? They're
00:23:15 --> 00:23:18 at their headquarters. So I don't think he approves
00:23:18 --> 00:23:22 of it. Okay. If that makes you feel better. It
00:23:22 --> 00:23:25 does make me feel a bit better, but I feel like
00:23:25 --> 00:23:30 John isn't doing enough to... I get his hands
00:23:30 --> 00:23:33 are tied, though. I was watching this game. I'm
00:23:33 --> 00:23:35 frustrated. Everything John has been doing this
00:23:35 --> 00:23:41 entire... episode has been irritating me there's
00:23:41 --> 00:23:44 a lot of people who don't love the mexico section
00:23:44 --> 00:23:50 of this game so you're not alone okay um but
00:23:50 --> 00:23:52 of course they are attacked by rebels while making
00:23:52 --> 00:23:54 the ammunition delivery they continue on the
00:23:54 --> 00:23:58 road on their route and i think it's s but did
00:23:58 --> 00:24:00 you write the name down i didn't espinosa yeah
00:24:00 --> 00:24:04 espinosa is the uh the general or the whatever
00:24:04 --> 00:24:07 that he's writing with And he says, there's something
00:24:07 --> 00:24:11 wrong. I feel it. John says, maybe you just need
00:24:11 --> 00:24:15 to take a piss or something. Come on, John, why
00:24:15 --> 00:24:17 not trust this guy? Of all the people you should
00:24:17 --> 00:24:19 trust. Especially after they've already been
00:24:19 --> 00:24:23 attacked once. Yeah. John just can't help with
00:24:23 --> 00:24:27 the witty one -liner. He just has to do it. Anyway,
00:24:27 --> 00:24:29 they survive the attacks and get the ammo to
00:24:29 --> 00:24:32 Chuparosa. And from there, board the train to
00:24:32 --> 00:24:35 complete the delivery. Lots of shooting. Lots
00:24:35 --> 00:24:38 of rebels jumping awkwardly and glitching across
00:24:38 --> 00:24:41 the trains. And then after reaching the destination,
00:24:42 --> 00:24:45 John says, I don't think DeSanta expected us
00:24:45 --> 00:24:47 to come back from this. So they basically sent
00:24:47 --> 00:24:53 John and Espinosa on a suicide mission. Why do
00:24:53 --> 00:24:57 they still give DeSanta the benefit of the doubt?
00:24:57 --> 00:25:00 Like, Espinosa and John should know better than
00:25:00 --> 00:25:04 to trust DeSanta at this point. I think this
00:25:04 --> 00:25:08 is the clincher. This is where the trust is completely
00:25:08 --> 00:25:11 broken. I love Espinosa saying, do you want to
00:25:11 --> 00:25:13 kill him or should I? Doesn't Captain Espinosa
00:25:13 --> 00:25:16 also call DeSanta a pathetic little boy who chases
00:25:16 --> 00:25:21 after barmen? Yeah. He hates the guy so much.
00:25:21 --> 00:25:25 Yeah. But John's response to, like, do you want
00:25:25 --> 00:25:29 to kill him or should I? Is, I need him alive.
00:25:29 --> 00:25:31 Like, he knows he has information that he's holding
00:25:31 --> 00:25:34 from John. He's just trying to figure out how
00:25:34 --> 00:25:36 to get that out of him. And I think this is the
00:25:36 --> 00:25:39 point where he realizes doing favors for him
00:25:39 --> 00:25:42 is not getting him that. I don't know when this
00:25:42 --> 00:25:44 takes place, but I had a random note saying,
00:25:44 --> 00:25:49 DeSanta obviously has mommy issues. I don't know
00:25:49 --> 00:25:55 where that is applied, but... He's got a lot
00:25:55 --> 00:25:58 of issues. Yeah. Didn't he say, like, my dad
00:25:58 --> 00:26:01 beat me and called me a girl? And John's like,
00:26:01 --> 00:26:04 that explains a lot. I think there was a comment
00:26:04 --> 00:26:06 about that where DeSantis is saying that women
00:26:06 --> 00:26:08 are frustrating or something like that, like
00:26:08 --> 00:26:12 my mom or something. Yeah, it was like two contradicting
00:26:12 --> 00:26:13 statements. Like, this is something positive,
00:26:14 --> 00:26:15 like my mom. Something negative, like my mom.
00:26:16 --> 00:26:19 It's like, okay, I think you're just spewing
00:26:19 --> 00:26:22 shit out of your mouth. Maybe that's why he likes
00:26:22 --> 00:26:28 barmen. But there's only the one bar. man that
00:26:28 --> 00:26:31 we see, but they act like there's hundreds of
00:26:31 --> 00:26:35 them. So, as discussed, John is running out of
00:26:35 --> 00:26:38 patience, and he returns to Escalera, and one
00:26:38 --> 00:26:40 day tells him Bill and Javier have been captured
00:26:40 --> 00:26:44 in Chuparosa. He sends DeSanta with him to retrieve
00:26:44 --> 00:26:47 them. On the way to Chuparosa, this is where
00:26:47 --> 00:26:50 they have that conversation we were just discussing,
00:26:50 --> 00:26:53 John will ask how they found them, and DeSanta
00:26:53 --> 00:26:56 responds, all rats must come out of their holes
00:26:56 --> 00:27:00 eventually. So kind of, like, not really a direct
00:27:00 --> 00:27:04 answer. Mm -hmm. They reach Chuparosa. DeSantis
00:27:04 --> 00:27:06 says they're being held in the church, and John
00:27:06 --> 00:27:10 heads in. Turns out it's a setup. John gets knocked
00:27:10 --> 00:27:13 out. Quickly after, he comes to outside and is
00:27:13 --> 00:27:16 about to be executed, but is saved last second
00:27:16 --> 00:27:19 by Reyes. So maybe it's good that he's doing
00:27:19 --> 00:27:21 all these side missions so someone could save
00:27:21 --> 00:27:26 his butt when the time comes. Right. I just...
00:27:26 --> 00:27:29 Okay. I was so frustrated with John because like
00:27:29 --> 00:27:31 you knew something was wrong. Espinosa warned
00:27:31 --> 00:27:34 you something was wrong. Yet you still, I get
00:27:34 --> 00:27:37 you're desperate for information, but man, don't
00:27:37 --> 00:27:39 you have a sixth sense? Like where's your gut
00:27:39 --> 00:27:42 intuition? So I'm not surprised that he gets
00:27:42 --> 00:27:45 betrayed by DeSanta and nearly dies a third time.
00:27:46 --> 00:27:49 I agree. I mean, yeah, the lure of they're in
00:27:49 --> 00:27:54 there is pretty strong. So I get it, but. He
00:27:54 --> 00:27:56 could have been a little more cautious about
00:27:56 --> 00:28:00 his approach. Okay, now I'm going to break your
00:28:00 --> 00:28:03 brain. So he's saved by Reyes, right? And you
00:28:03 --> 00:28:06 might be asking, how did he know? How is he here
00:28:06 --> 00:28:11 just in time to save John? Let me show you if
00:28:11 --> 00:28:14 we go back a few minutes to around an hour 46.
00:28:15 --> 00:28:17 Because the last we heard about Reyes, he was
00:28:17 --> 00:28:21 on a boat with Louisa to somewhere. So let me
00:28:21 --> 00:28:25 show you this. Look at this. Who's this, Kathy?
00:28:26 --> 00:28:32 Wait. Okay, let's see if John acknowledges him.
00:28:32 --> 00:28:37 What? Do you think John sees him? Wait, wait.
00:28:37 --> 00:28:39 Does John look over to his left? Okay, for our
00:28:39 --> 00:28:46 listeners, Reyes is in Allende's villa. How did
00:28:46 --> 00:28:48 - Just chilling out there. So they must not know
00:28:48 --> 00:28:51 what he looks like. Because last we knew, they
00:28:51 --> 00:28:53 were still trying to lure him out in the open.
00:28:53 --> 00:28:56 Okay. So he's just sitting here watching this
00:28:56 --> 00:28:59 go down. And we assume he follows John. But does
00:28:59 --> 00:29:03 no one else realize there's a whole human standing
00:29:03 --> 00:29:06 right there? Okay. So John doesn't even acknowledge
00:29:06 --> 00:29:11 him. I think it's just because it's at the top
00:29:11 --> 00:29:14 of a village. So maybe people just can walk into
00:29:14 --> 00:29:17 that section. I don't know. But either way, that's
00:29:17 --> 00:29:21 totally Reyes. Yeah. Totally Reyes. Yeah. Good
00:29:21 --> 00:29:23 catch. And so now we know. Why he was there.
00:29:23 --> 00:29:26 Yeah, I saw that, I think, editing. And I was
00:29:26 --> 00:29:29 like, wait, hold on. There's no way he's just
00:29:29 --> 00:29:32 standing right there. How good of a detail is
00:29:32 --> 00:29:36 that to add into this game? Because I was asking,
00:29:37 --> 00:29:39 how did he know how to be here? And how is he
00:29:39 --> 00:29:42 here just in time? They gave us that answer.
00:29:42 --> 00:29:45 That's just such a great detail. And they didn't
00:29:45 --> 00:29:49 have to add that in. But I love it. I like it
00:29:49 --> 00:29:53 too. Can we talk about Jon? Well, first of all,
00:29:53 --> 00:29:55 we've been laughing at Jon running throughout
00:29:55 --> 00:29:58 this playthrough. But it just gets so much better
00:29:58 --> 00:30:01 when his hands are tied behind his back. Gonna
00:30:01 --> 00:30:04 add in every clip of that. A compilation of him.
00:30:04 --> 00:30:08 He is cut free by Abraham. Jon and the Rebels
00:30:08 --> 00:30:11 defeat the army, and then they have their hype
00:30:11 --> 00:30:13 -up moment. Jon walks off, and that's the end
00:30:13 --> 00:30:18 of the gameplay. Any more notes from you? Nope.
00:30:19 --> 00:30:23 Wait, I do have a question. So I feel like in
00:30:23 --> 00:30:26 this game, he's always constantly traveling from,
00:30:26 --> 00:30:30 I can't remember what city the villa is in. Chuparosa
00:30:30 --> 00:30:33 to Escalera. Yeah, and back and forth and back
00:30:33 --> 00:30:35 and forth. He's been to Chuparosa like eight
00:30:35 --> 00:30:38 times. Probably not eight, but it feels like
00:30:38 --> 00:30:42 he's been there a lot. He's got some miles on
00:30:42 --> 00:30:44 that horse. The horse must be pissed at him for
00:30:44 --> 00:30:47 going back and forth. I'm pissed about having
00:30:47 --> 00:30:52 to go back and forth. No, it's fun. It's just
00:30:52 --> 00:30:54 different when I'm playing it to record because
00:30:54 --> 00:30:56 obviously I don't do any of the side content
00:30:56 --> 00:31:00 and just focus on the mission. So it's more fun
00:31:00 --> 00:31:02 when you're playing it just to play it. I will
00:31:02 --> 00:31:05 say that. It's a great game. But yeah, there
00:31:05 --> 00:31:08 are reasons people don't like the Mexico section
00:31:08 --> 00:31:10 of this game because it is a lot of back and
00:31:10 --> 00:31:13 forth and it is a lot of John seemingly being...
00:31:14 --> 00:31:19 Just allowing himself to be used. Well, that
00:31:19 --> 00:31:22 was part three. Two more parts of gameplay, and
00:31:22 --> 00:31:25 then we'll have the summary episode. Part four
00:31:25 --> 00:31:28 gameplay will be released tomorrow, and we'll
00:31:28 --> 00:31:31 discuss it next week. And we'll finally get out
00:31:31 --> 00:31:36 of Mexico. Thank goodness. With that, audacity
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